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May C. moneta / C. annulus reach in the E Pacific to Mexico?



 
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PostPosted: 12.02.2018, 01:58    Post subject: May C. moneta / C. annulus reach in the E Pacific to Mexico? Reply with quote

A few days ago I found in my office a lot of specimens that a colleague has brought from Puerto Vallarta in Jalisco (Mexico) some years ago. Surprisingly it encompassed also C. moneta and C. annulus, each a small specimen. The other species represent a typical composition of east Pacific shells (I am far away from being a specialist, but I try to follow up the literature on my region). The literature mainly agrees that both species do not reach the coast.
I cannot say whether the person who brought these specimens collect them bei their own or bought it from children or so. The material is surprisingly clean, of a good quality, but looks like beach collected. So I have no doubt that these shells come from Puerto Vallarta. I do not know the place myself.
I would appreciate any comment.
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PostPosted: 20.02.2018, 07:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, moneta occasionally reaches Cocos Is. and Galapagos, but to find annulus and moneta in this area seems more than unlikely. These shells probably got mixed in from another Pacific place, perhaps from a tourist gift shop?
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PostPosted: 22.02.2018, 05:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comment. Yes, gift shop, this was also my first idea, and cannot be excluded. But except from these two (really tiny) specimens, nothing is exotic and all - as far as I have reviewed the sample well - seems to be typical for the region.
What I have seen for sale in gift shops here is all from the region; people do not need to import shells because there is attractive material (for tourists) everywhere ... in small fishing villages I have seen large areas covered with freshly fished (and dumped) large Hexaplex erythrostomus and Strombus granulatus.
I am frequently looking for shells at Mexican coasts - both east and west - so I will keep eyes open ...
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PostPosted: 26.02.2018, 21:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello BajaBeachComber:

In my opinion, at least you can get reliable data regarding these shells, i.e. living samples in the field, the most probable cause to see them is a souvenir craft made for tourism. Unfortunately for the collector who gets for local seashells in many places, Philippine seashells are virtually everywhere, like the sand grains or the air. You will see Philippine shells in Japan, in Australia, in Europe and of course, in many other areas, even the ones with a diverse molluscan fauna, mostly forming curious hand-crafts.
For your curiosity, some years ago I got in a tidal pool a perfectly recognizable specimen of Monetaria caputserpentis. The shell was intact but without gloss. The problem? It was found in Spain, Europe. I haven´t got any of these, so I am pretty sure it was part of a craft. By now...
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PostPosted: 12.03.2018, 07:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

benicypraea wrote:
Hello BajaBeachComber:
Philippine seashells are virtually everywhere, like the sand grains or the air.
BENICYP.


Dear Benicyp,
thank you for the comment.
Your are surely right, but I noted that known distribution of both species is not that far. I will continue looking, even if I am more active in the North of Mexico.
Best regards y gracias,
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PostPosted: 14.03.2018, 02:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear BajaBeachComber:

De nada. Espero que tenga suerte. Nunca se sabe al 100% lo que puede haber.

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